Accumulator 3 Question

[Daryl]

Daryl,
Before you put too much thought into this - let's keep it simple.
No, it doesn't function "normally".
#1 it goes from supplying power (assuming #3 pressure point has some pressure)to providing no power (regardless of the amount of number 3 pressure point pressure).
#2 There is no "overtaking action" when you have a zeroed out number three accumulator - the clubhead doesn't move when you twist your left hand in place with a zero number three accumulator. You need some #3 accumulator to have an "overtaking action". See 6-B-3-A last sentence. Lynn knows this - he was probably thinking of a different context when he originally posted to your question.

Just trying to save your sanity.

Mike, I understand what you're saying and it makes perfect sense to me. I'm more than satisfied with yours and Yoda's answers.

I think that we all see it the same way. That although the amount of power generated by the #3 Accumulator is the Left Hand/Clubshaft Angle, the motion of the Right Hand Paddle Wheel and the Straightening Right Arm, which controls that Power, is still present. It still exists.

[Mike O]

Mike, I understand what you're saying and it makes perfect sense to me. I'm more than satisfied with yours and Yoda's answers.

I think that we all see it the same way. That although the amount of power generated by the #3 Accumulator is the Left Hand/Clubshaft Angle, the motion of the Right Hand Paddle Wheel and the Straightening Right Arm, which controls that Power, is still present. It still exists.

Let me keep my posts clear - my first post answered your first post of this thread - your question - nothing more. I consider your post above - bringing a whole new question/ subject matter to the topic. I certainly don't see [I]"the motion of the Right Hand Paddle Wheel and the Straightening Right Arm, which controls that Power, is still present.[/I] as my viewpoint.

[Daryl]

Let me keep my posts clear - my first post answered your first post of this thread - your question - nothing more. I consider your post above - bringing a whole new question/ subject matter to the topic. I certainly don't see [I]"the motion of the Right Hand Paddle Wheel and the Straightening Right Arm, which controls that Power, is still present.[/I] as my viewpoint.

Mike, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. If I ever do, I would make you say: "Hey Bucket, for the last time, put down that Goat".

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6-B-1-0 THE FIRST POWER ACCUMULATOR.........Active or Passive, the straightening Right Elbow with its Paddlewheel Action, powers, guides, and regulates the #3 Accumulator Motion (7-1 but not the actual Clubface aligning (1-F). Study 2-M, 7-11 and Components 19.

The Amount of Travel is Left Hand/Clubshaft Adjustment and "Active or Passive, the straightening Right Elbow with its Paddlewheel Action, powers, guides, and regulates the #3 Accumulator Motion". So, it seems to me that as long as the Right Arm is Straightening with its Paddlewheel Action, then the mechanism for powering, guiding, and regulating the #3 Accumulator Motion, is still present in the Golf Swing.

With a Stationary Pivot, Basic Motion, Back and Forth and Zero #3 Accumulator, the Clubface is Opening and Closing to the Plane Line. That's Left Arm Primary Lever for sure, but its guided and regulated by the "Straightening of the Right Arm with its Paddlewheel Action". No?

[Mike O]

With a Stationary Pivot, Basic Motion, Back and Forth and Zero #3 Accumulator, the Clubface is Opening and Closing to the Plane Line. That's Left Arm Primary Lever for sure, but its guided and regulated by the "Straightening of the Right Arm with its Paddlewheel Action". No?

Absolutely.

[Slazman]

Sorry for the semi thread jump, but thought this would be a good spot to ask questions on "Stage One Basic Motion" Would this be a correct sequential description of Basic motion START-UP? Resisting or holding the left shoulder from turning as my right forearm simultaneously fans and pulls my left arm across my chest while applying extensor action and at the same time my right forearm is pointing at the baseline of the plane until I have moved the club approximately two feet. If I am missing something or have misinterpreted this please help me. However the move I have trouble reconciling is when you add the full pivot stroke and one has programmed the above procedure in computer dependability it seems that one would be more inclined to go to much IN and not enough up. I love the feel of the up move on the full swing; however I feel hardly any UP move in my Basic Motion.

[Daryl]

Sorry for the semi thread jump, but thought this would be a good spot to ask questions on "Stage One Basic Motion" Would this be a correct sequential description of Basic motion START-UP? Resisting or holding the left shoulder from turning as my right forearm simultaneously fans and pulls my left arm across my chest while applying extensor action and at the same time my right forearm is pointing at the baseline of the plane until I have moved the club approximately two feet. If I am missing something or have misinterpreted this please help me. However the move I have trouble reconciling is when you add the full pivot stroke and one has programmed the above procedure in computer dependability it seems that one would be more inclined to go to much IN and not enough up. I love the feel of the up move on the full swing; however I feel hardly any UP move in my Basic Motion.

I would agree.

[Mike O]

So, it seems to me that as long as the Right Arm is Straightening with its Paddlewheel Action, then the mechanism for powering, guiding, and regulating the #3 Accumulator Motion, is still present in the Golf Swing.

Fine, however, just realize that you're taking a quote from 6-B-1-0 and applying it to the "whole" third accumulator 6-B-3-0 - you can get it a little out of context doing that. It's not the only or required powering source for the #3 accumulator (see 6-B-3-A) - you have other options/ contributors available - depending on shot length etc.

And trust me - he ain't putting down the goat - that's a waste of energy to even ask him that.

[Yoda]

With a Stationary Pivot, Basic Motion, Back and Forth and Zero #3 Accumulator, the Clubface is Opening and Closing to the Plane Line. That's Left Arm Primary Lever for sure, but its guided and regulated by the "Straightening of the Right Arm with its Paddlewheel Action". No?

Absolutely.

And that, the visual 'opening and closing' of the Clubface and the in-line Travel of the Left Arm and Club (Primary Lever), is the result of maintaining the Vertical Left Wrist through the Impact Interval. This is the required Overtaking -- albeit without the Maximum Power or Maximum Trigger Delay present when the Club is Gripped under the Heel of the Left Hand (a normal #3 Accumulator Left Hand-Clubshaft Angle) -- of the Hands by the Club, even with a Zeroed #3 Accumulator (Angle).

The Hands and the Clubhead are, after all, moving in concentric circles, and the Clubhead, with or without any #3 Angle, simply must move from one side to the other and always outside the arc of the Hands.

[BerntR]

With a Stationary Pivot, Basic Motion, Back and Forth and Zero #3 Accumulator, the Clubface is Opening and Closing to the Plane Line. That's Left Arm Primary Lever for sure, but its guided and regulated by the "Straightening of the Right Arm with its Paddlewheel Action". No?

I think that if you use your right hand for anything but sensoring (and possibly that too - because you can't sense without applying some pressure) - and combine it with zero (and not just close to zero but zero) accumulator #3 - you will disturb the rhythm. The only exception is when you steer, such that PP #1, #2 and #3 forces the left wrist to be flat at all times. But without steering and without accumulator #3 lag any pressure from the right hand will disturb the rhythm.

IMO

[HungryBear]

There are "things" that, given a limitation on degrees of freedom a machine cannot "do" without violating a degree of freedom.
So from a mechanical perspective there are two paths. recognize this or just let your eyes glaze over and make necessary compensations.

The Bear