CF in hitting.
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07-30-2012, 02:43 AM
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MizunoJoe,
There is only one requirement for CF to be present in a golf stroke. And that requirement is strictly geometrical. Any time the club head has a somewhat curved path (which is basically all the time from top to finish) there will be CF present.
Hitting or swinging doesn't make a difference.
CF is nothing more (and nothing less) than club head inertia's response to an inward pulling effort (the other CF, Centripetal Force). The swinger manipulates these CF's to harness & control the throw-out and thereby the release. The hitter relies less on CF manipulation and more on muscle force to release the club and square up the club face, but both CF's are still present, has to be negotiated and is a key enabler to an efficient stroke with a chain reaction like release.
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07-30-2012, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
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Swung is swung
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Only by the spinning flywheel, which isn't present in a pure Hit because it's replaced by the extending right arm from the Top. It's only swung by being blasted off by the flywheel. In Hitting, it's a dead weight being pushed out of the way by the right triceps. Were it swung, 12-1-0, Component No 4 would be Four Barrel(1/2/3/4), instead of Triple Barrel(1/2/3) as listed on p 221.
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08-02-2012, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
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Let's keep it simple;
1-L - 9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
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Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?
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If there is angular motion there is CF, but its effect on release are zeroed by the hitter. See: 6-F-0
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08-02-2012, 10:21 AM
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Not zeroed, Bumpy.
It is getting "help" by the driveout. Or the driveout is getting help from CF. They help each other.
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08-02-2012, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR
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Not zeroed, Bumpy.
It is getting "help" by the driveout. Or the driveout is getting help from CF. They help each other.
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Driveout is providing the motion, which you claim is generating CF, which you then claim "helps" Driveout??? Sounds like the basis for a perpetual motion machine!
Throwout is preempted by Driveout. If CF were present in releasing #3, then the left arm would be the delivery mechanism, forcing #4 to be a PA in Hitting. But per 12-1-0, Hitting is Triple Barrel(1/2/3) not 4-barrel(1/2/3/4).
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08-02-2012, 02:13 PM
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The oil companies wouldn't allow that mj that's why magnetic engines haven't caught on
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08-02-2012, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumpy
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If there is angular motion there is CF, but its effect on release are zeroed by the hitter. See: 6-F-0
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Originally Posted by BerntR
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Not zeroed, Bumpy.
It is getting "help" by the driveout. Or the driveout is getting help from CF. They help each other.
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OK, zeroed might be the wrong word, not sure help is correct either.
Per 6-F-0 ".....totally annuling and stifling any intrusion by CF".
If there is no intrusion, I'm going to regard its effect on the "overtaking rate" as PASSIVE.
If there was any "helping" going on I would be pulling and pushing at the same time.
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08-02-2012, 12:55 PM
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There AIN'T NO C.F. IN TRUE HITTING END OF STORY HOMER WROTE THE BOOK THE END GO SPEND Forty YEARS WORTH OF RESEARCH AND FELT BACK TO ME ALL YOU PIONEER'S IF GOLF THEOREM
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08-02-2012, 01:12 PM
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What do you want who to do?
Originally Posted by whip
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There AIN'T NO C.F. IN TRUE HITTING END OF STORY HOMER WROTE THE BOOK THE END GO SPEND Forty YEARS WORTH OF RESEARCH AND FELT BACK TO ME ALL YOU PIONEER'S IF GOLF THEOREM
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Could U be a little more specific?
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08-02-2012, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by whip
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There AIN'T NO C.F. IN TRUE HITTING END OF STORY HOMER WROTE THE BOOK THE END GO SPEND Forty YEARS WORTH OF RESEARCH AND FELT BACK TO ME ALL YOU PIONEER'S IF GOLF THEOREM
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Brilliant argument. Stating your perception then following that with Homer is right does not lend credibility by association. I think everybody agrees Homer is right. If your not capable of developing a valid argument you're just noise.
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