It AIN'T me........evil diabolical genius of EC.....bullet proof aoa elbow plane drive out hitting pattern
2-J-3 aoa geometry matching
10-2-D-ish grip with pressure points and left thumb aligned aft along LCOG matching
preturned prestraightened right hip address matching
inward hand path matching
knee action matching
deep turn right hip action matching
steep shoulder turn matching
right elbow right forearm flying wedge compliant loading
matching hands and left arm underneath dual action right shoulder matching
centered launching pad pivot matching
right shoulder releasing over primary lever matching
release type matching
thrown over sweetspot matching
angled hinge action matching
down plane way forward axis tilt springing up full radius brought to bare on ball radius extend from feet-ankles-knees-hips-spine-right elbow-fully uncocked left wrist throw out and over.
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 12-03-2011 at 11:59 AM.
I seem to remember that you wrote in other threads that in the 7th edition Hip Action for the Basic Stroke Patterns had been changed from Delayed to Standard. Were you referring to that draft 7th edition that Tom Tomasello assembled, or is this really somewhere in the final 7th edition?
So you have ask yourself did the notes for the 7th edition say standard hip action or was that a conversation between Homer and Tomasello...and if the notes said Standard Hip Action did Joe Daniels make the decision to retain delayed hip action in the stroke patterns. Good question for Joe Daniels? I got to believe Joe Daniels and Tom Tomasello had the same set of 7th edition updates, in the 7th edition text Joe Daniels mentions 90 pages of notes and Tommy mentioned the same amount. You would have to assume that Sally Kelley probably provided Tom and Joe copies of those notes. Tom Tomasello painstakingly put those updates into a copy of the 6th edition. Tommy knew that book inside and out...
With my backswing, I'm sensing both the right hip action and the action of the hands per the straight line delivery path per the #3 pressure point. I'm hitting the ball long and straight, consistently. Why?
If I use Right Forearm Takeaway (trying to keep right arm straight, wide arc), I lose my pivot angle/waist bend, that condition is called bobbing. If I use Magic of the Right Forearm takeaway (bending or levering the right elbow at the start of the backswing) with delayed hip action that puts an excessive amount of pressure on the right elbow. The backstroke motion that Tommy taught; Magic of the Right Forearm and Standard Hip action solved all of my backswing issues. I'm swinging within myself and retaining the three most important angles.
1) Knee flex
2) Maintaining Waist Bend
3) The Right Wrist conditon (Bent and Level)
I believe this is a process an AI should be taking you through.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 12-03-2011 at 03:56 PM.
Spent a lot of time with the 6th during the 90's, today, I go between the 2nd/6th/7th. I'm in the market for the 3rd edition. Really like the putting stroke pattern in the 2nd.
It AIN'T me........evil diabolical genius of EC.....bullet proof aoa elbow plane drive out hitting pattern
2-J-3 aoa geometry matching
10-2-D-ish grip with pressure points and left thumb aligned aft along LCOG matching
preturned prestraightened right hip address matching
inward hand path matching
knee action matching
deep turn right hip action matching
steep shoulder turn matching
right elbow right forearm flying wedge compliant loading
matching hands and left arm underneath dual action right shoulder matching
centered launching pad pivot matching
right shoulder releasing over primary lever matching
release type matching
thrown over sweetspot matching
angled hinge action matching
down plane way forward axis tilt springing up full radius brought to bare on ball radius extend from feet-ankles-knees-hips-spine-right elbow-fully uncocked left wrist throw out and over.
Pinehurst........calling..........for........reuni on???? Yellow Book Ressurection Up From The Grave It AROOOOSE!!!! WITH A MIGHTY TRIUMPH O'RE ITS FOES!!!! IT AROSE A VICTOR FROM THE DARK DOMAIN!!! IT WILL LIVE FOREVER IN GEOMETRIC REIGN!!!
Pinehurst........calling..........for........reuni on???? Yellow Book Ressurection Up From The Grave It AROOOOSE!!!! WITH A MIGHTY TRIUMPH O'RE ITS FOES!!!! IT AROSE A VICTOR FROM THE DARK DOMAIN!!! IT WILL LIVE FOREVER IN GEOMETRIC REIGN!!!
All is right with the world again!!!
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Sure....Eddie Cox has developed something along these lines I believe to be a FANTASTIC HITTING pattern....you pre-turn the hips in an amount to approximate the angle of approach...which is basically approximated by your on plane right forearm at address...so in your LOOK LOOK LOOK process you are observing with the pre-turn...the line from your left knee to right hip joint is approximately parallel to the angle of approach 2-J-3 style on the ground....this 3-D imaginary line approximates the direction of your backstroke hand path....those King lines are the MODEL TOP for this particular pattern (less "visually flat left wrist" though ...more geometrically flat). But if you look at the King...he achieved these alignments more in dynamic fashion...but I think it would be much easier with the pre-turn to establish these lines at address...that's where you is going...so why not start there...then all of your path/delivery is right there for you to LOOK LOOK LOOK at...you have an approximation of "this is the path my hands must travel on". GOOD STUFF....
Unfortunately I can only understand about 10% of the above goobledygook. I did however hit a 2/3 swing PW with Eddie's "hitting pattern" today as far as I normally hit a PW with a full swing. There is some meat on this bone, even I can see. Today was our first of many lessons. I got a lot to learn, but the hour I spent today is a huge step in the right direction.
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Last edited by danattherock : 12-13-2011 at 10:36 PM.
Unfortunately I can only understand about 10% of the above goobledygook. I did however hit a 2/3 swing PW with Eddie's "hitting pattern" today as far as I normally hit a PW with a full swing. There is some meat on this bone, even I can see. Today was our first of many lessons. I got a lot to learn, but the hour I spent today is a huge step in the right direction.
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ahhhh yes....Eddie talked to me about you today! Congrats...Hand path looking pretty good on the backstroke!
Did Eddie give you the "hammering" drill? You got too much under release on that downswing...but man you have made a nice start on the backswing! Stick with it!
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